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    When Will Gold Stocks Go Up? Experts Talk Outlook for Equities and Price

    Dean Belder
    Feb. 04, 2025 02:00PM PST

    Against the backdrop of a soaring gold price, experts at the Vancouver Resource Investment Conference shared their outlook on where it will go next and how investors can find opportunities in the sector.

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    Gold has seen a phenomenal price performance over the past year, registering a 30 percent gain and setting new records along the way. Just over a month into the new year, it's already passed US$2,800 per ounce.

    However, the price surge hasn't translated into widespread gold stock gains, particularly when it comes to juniors.

    At the Vancouver Resource Investment Conference, industry veterans Adrian Day, Randy Smallwood and Ross Beaty discussed with moderator David Lin why this disconnect exists and what it could mean for investors.


    Central banks buy gold, not equities

    Adrian Day, president of Adrian Day Asset Management, noted that it's not unusual for gold to rise first.

    “That’s always the way at the beginning of a bull market," he told attendees.

    "You have to have a catalyst — a great drill result, or a great discovery, or something to make the stock go up. A rising tide raising all ships doesn’t really happen until the end of the bull market,” he said.

    What is unusual is how this bull market got started and how slow gold equities have responded.

    Continuing, Day explained that since 2022, the gold price has gained more than 70 percent, but it’s not investors who have driven the impressive rise — rather, it's central banks looking to diversify away from the US dollar.

    "The People’s Bank of China is not going to be buying stocks to achieve that objective, and so the people who have been driving the gold price for the last two years are buying physical gold. They’re not buying gold stocks,” he said.

    This statement was reinforced by Randy Smallwood, president and CEO of Wheaton Precious Metals (TSX:WPM,NYSE:WPM), and former chair of the World Gold Council.

    “This bull market started unlike any other bull market that we’ve seen in my time in this industry," he said.

    "It’s (being driven by) an investor group that doesn’t chase exchange-traded funds (ETFs) — we saw ETFs actually drop over the last couple of years; now they're starting to bounce back up again — and they don’t invest in equities. So all the evidence supports that this bull market really started from a different spot than we’ve ever seen before."

    According to Smallwood, these circumstances have created an unusual market dynamic. The price of physical metal has soared, while equities and investment products like ETFs have lagged.

    Similarly, Equinox Gold (TSX:EQX,NYSEAMERICAN:EQX) Chair Ross Beaty referred to the current situation as “weird” and “unnatural,” pointing out that gold and gold equities have historically moved in tandem.

    “Starting in about 2022 or 2023, after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, a lot of these big central banks decided to move away from the dollar into other asset categories like gold, and so now we have this crazy disconnect,” he said.

    However, Beaty went on to note that even with this strangeness, the market remains bullish in 2025. Ultimately, he's of the opinion that either the gold price has to fall, or gold stocks have to rise.

    "I don’t see why gold prices should come down; therefore, I think it’s a pretty good time to be buying,” Beaty said.

    Why don't investors like gold stocks?

    One challenge that may be driving investors away from gold stocks is how companies manage capital costs.

    Smallwood said that as the gold price rises, producers are chasing lower gold grades, which is more difficult and costly. As a result, even with a higher gold price, companies aren’t increasing margins.

    “As soon as lower-grade material becomes economic, the cost per ounce is going to climb,” he said.

    Beaty added to Smallwood’s point, saying that gold-mining companies face additional headwinds from debt, equity dilution and project risk. He cited his own experience at Equinox Gold.

    “We have US$1.3 billion in debt, for example. Nobody likes debt," he noted.

    "We just finished a huge mine construction last May, and a week before the mine opened our partner said they wanted to sell their interest, and we bought it for a billion dollars. So we had a lot of these things that tend to discourage investors in the sense that when you raise more equity capital, it’s not a great thing to do,” Beaty continued.

    For his part, Day said that western investors have not been interested in gold for some time.

    He told listeners at the event that until about 2010, the majority of mutual funds offered investors exposure to gold. Today, only dedicated gold funds offer any exposure. Investors just aren’t interested.

    “In my view, they’ve been burned too many times since 2011. Sometimes it’s the industry’s fault, sometimes it isn’t. In 2011, companies were going out and making questionable acquisitions, overpaying for marginal deals, and most of that money ended up being written off. So when a generalist buys the best companies and then six years later they’re down 50 percent, they say, ‘I’m not sure I understand this sector, but I know for certain I don’t want to invest in it,’” Day said.

    Beaty said investors are also being put off by the gold industry’s current lack of interest in consolidation.

    “For a mining company to stay in business, they either have to discover, or they have to buy — they have to replace the reserves one way or the other, because they’re simply depleting every single day of a mine’s life," Beaty said.

    "So there’s a natural built-in ability for smaller companies and feeder companies to discover things that the larger companies want to buy."

    When will gold stocks follow the gold price higher?

    In this environment, where should investors focus when it comes to gold stocks?

    Smallwood suggested that companies working on de-risking may provide better opportunities as they try to find better balance, leveraging higher gold prices while keeping an eye on operational costs.

    His advice for new gold investors is to look at streaming companies, which provide less risk, and can give newcomers experience before they begin to look for riskier and higher-leverage opportunities.

    Beaty held a similar notion, noting that investors should be working to derisk their portfolios.

    “The solution is to have a diversified portfolio that will shield some of those single-country grenades, or single-asset grenades, that generally happen in this business," he told audience members.

    "There are lots of good stories too, and there is lots of fundamental value being created. That’s what investors want to hold onto, and you never get that from buying the commodity; you get that buying the stocks,” he said.

    Even though there seems to be a disconnect between the gold price and the performance of gold stocks, the panelists agreed that it is only a matter of time before the stocks follow. Beaty suggested this will largely happen when western investors return to the market, which they started slowly doing toward the end of 2024.

    “This should be a ripping market. When the west wakes up and fully embraces it, it will be,” Beaty said.

    Stay tuned for more event coverage, including video interviews with many of the experts who attended.

    This is an updated version of an article first published by the Investing News Network in 2024.

    Don't forget to follow us @INN_Resource for real-time news updates!

    Securities Disclosure: I, Dean Belder, hold no direct investment interest in any company mentioned in this article.

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    Dean has been writing in one form or another since penning stage plays in his youth. He is a graduate of both Emily Carr University and Simon Fraser University, with a BFA in photography and a BA in communications.

    As a writer, Dean has traveled throughout BC and the Pacific Northwest covering cultural events, interviewing small business owners and working alongside fellow writers and photographers from publications like Rolling Stone Magazine, Spin and the Georgia Straight.

    Dean has a keen interest in investing, and enjoys learning about the mining industry and better understanding the technical aspects of trading. In his spare time, Dean is an avid home chef, ponders the space-time continuum and makes his own cider. On weekends he can be found cycling the Seawall, exploring farmers markets or sampling the city’s local craft breweries.

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