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Did you miss the New Orleans Investment Conference this year? We run through some of the key themes in this overview, from bubbles to what the next hot commodity could be.
Held every year for over four decades, the New Orleans Investment Conference is an opportunity for investors to further their knowledge on the trends driving US and global markets.
This year’s event ran from November 1 to 4, and featured dozens of speakers and exhibiting companies. Gold featured prominently in discussions, but many other topics came up as well, including other metals and commodities, the economy and more.
If you weren’t able to make it to the show, don’t worry. The Investing News Network (INN) has put together a recap of the four-day event, and will be publishing audio interviews with some of the key speakers in the coming days. Scroll down to get a taste of what happened.
Bubbles and crash calls
Bubbles were a central theme at the conference, with the discussion coming to a head during day four’s aptly titled “Booms, Busts and Bubbles” panel.
Moderated by Sprott Media’s Albert Lu and featuring Peter Schiff of Euro Pacific Capital, Ben Hunt of Second Foundation Partners and Mike Larson of Weiss Ratings, the talk focused on a number of topical questions. While the panelists didn’t agree on all points, the overall consensus was that the US is facing a bubble in everything — an “uber bubble” as Larson called it.
Following on from the dot-com and housing bubbles, this is the third central bank-induced bubble, said Hunt. He and the other panel participants had different opinions about what could pop it.
Ben Hunt speaking at #NOIC2018 about what could pop the current “everything bubble” – says it has to be something that undermines confidence in a central bank bailout (could be inflation).
— Resource Investing (@INN_Resource) November 4, 2018
Mike Larson says market activity shows background concerns are starting to boil over – points out that asset valuations are rising in many areas (art, cars, NFL franchises) #NOIC2018
— Resource Investing (@INN_Resource) November 4, 2018
Schiff in particular warned that the bursting of this bubble could be “catastrophic,” saying that unlike the previous two bubbles, this one can’t be pushed elsewhere. He explained that he is investing overseas to protect himself. “I want to be far away from this risk,” he commented.
This crisis will be the last one, says Peter Schiff – the bubble is too big to reflate and the third time won’t be the charm for the Fed; it will be three strikes, you’re out #NOIC2018
— Resource Investing (@INN_Resource) November 4, 2018
Of course, the difficulty in calling for a crash is figuring out when it will happen — as Lu joked at the beginning of the panel, the next financial crisis always seems to be two years away.
As the discussion wrapped up, the speakers stayed away from exact predictions, but agreed that a crash could happen soon. Larson said he sees the next serious crisis potentially coming in 2019, while Schiff said, “I think we’re already in a bear market in stocks, [but] I wouldn’t call the correction until it’s officially a bear market.” For his part, Hunt stuck with a prediction of two years.
Gold price predictions and praise
Unsurprisingly, many crash predictions made at the conference were accompanied by recommendations to buy gold. In fact, in the panel discussed above, all three participants commented on the benefits of owning the yellow metal.
Other high-profile fans of gold were Doug Casey of Casey Research and bestselling “Rich Dad Poor Dad” author Robert Kiyosaki. The former told attendees to focus on commodities because they’re the only thing that’s really cheap right now, adding, “and if you don’t have any gold, go get some.” The latter emphasized, “I do not save money, I save gold and silver.”
My poor dad valued the dollar. My rich dad valued gold over the dollar. The dollar’s value only comes from government. Gold’s value is intrinsic. #richdad
— Robert T. Kiyosaki (@theRealKiyosaki) November 1, 2018
In terms of where the gold price could be going in the near term, forecasts were more subdued. The yellow metal is now down about 3.5 percent year-to-date, and the general consensus seemed to be that investors will need to exercise patience as they wait for it to rise.
Peter Boockvar of the Boock Report did put the yellow metal’s current price into perspective for investors, reminding them that it’s seen a substantial increase in the last three years, which is when he believes it bottomed. He also encouraged listeners to watch for when the US Federal Reserve “blinks.”
Watching the #economy panel at #NOIC2018 – Peter Boockvar says he still sees December 2015 as the bottom for #gold, and we are up ~20 percent since then.
— Resource Investing (@INN_Resource) November 2, 2018
In his opinion, the next leg up for #gold will be next year, when the Fed blinks – even a pause in rate hikes should cause the US dollar to sell off #NOIC2018
— Resource Investing (@INN_Resource) November 2, 2018
Brien Lundin, editor of Gold Newletter and host of the New Orleans Investment Conference, offered his perspective on where gold could go in the last two months of the year, telling INN, “if we have a typical kind of seasonality, then we’re going to have a downturn in the market toward the middle of December. The Fed will have one more rate hike most likely and gold should rebound off of that.”
He continued, “I would say we’re probably going to be … I’d say probably right about where we are now with a little bit of a dip beforehand and maybe a rise at the end. So maybe right about where we are, maybe $1,240 [per ounce].”
Stay tuned for interviews with Casey and Lundin.
Is it finally uranium’s time?
Aside from gold, one other commodity received a fair amount of attention at the conference: uranium. While investors have been hearing for years that its time is coming, the metal’s steady price rise this year has added new meaning to those predictions.
In fact, during the “Mining Share Panel,” moderated by Sprott’s Rick Rule, two out of four panelists said uranium is their favorite commodity right now. Those two votes came from Nick Hodge of the Outsider Club and Lobo Tiggre of Independent Speculator, who commented that he’s “extremely bullish” and looking for companies with high margins.
Rick Rule now leading the #mining share panel at #NOIC2018 – two votes from the panelists for #uranium as favorite commodity (plus one for #silver and one for #copper)
— Resource Investing (@INN_Resource) November 2, 2018
And for those wondering about Rule’s answer to that question, he said during an interview with INN that uranium is high on his list too. “I would tell people as a commodity that they have to own that they have to own gold, and they have to own it for insurance purposes,” he said, adding, “[but] as a speculator, I’m focused on the uranium space.”
Rule continued, “I don’t know if uranium moves next year, or the year after or the year after that. Which troubles people. Time is important to many speculators. It’s less important to me.”
Great chat with @mercenarygeo at #NOIC2018 – he says #uranium has stood out as a bullish market in 2018 with a slow and steady rise.
— Resource Investing (@INN_Resource) November 2, 2018
Others who marked uranium as a standout commodity included Mercenary Geologist Mickey Fulp and Sean Brodrick of Weiss Ratings, who gave a talk at the show titled “The White Hot Metal That Will Make You a Millionaire.” In his opinion, there are only 37 companies in the uranium space that will be capable of supplying the market as demand grows. “It’s time to saddle up your horses and pick winners,” he said.
Stay tuned for interviews with Fulp, Hodge, Rule and Tiggre.
Advice for investors
Finally, some presenters at the conference took the time to take investors back to the basics, reminding them of important steps to take to ensure profitability.
Tax-loss selling, the practise of selling a losing stock to reduce capital gains, was brought up frequently as a way to buy companies on the cheap. In conversation with INN, Adrian Day of Adrian Day Asset Management commented, “I suspect we’re going to see some more heavy tax-loss selling in the juniors in particular. So I would draw up a shopping list and I would look for opportunities at the end of November, beginning of December, which is normally when the tax-loss selling peaks.”
He added, “prices can come off 20 percent just in that short period, and then they can recover 20 percent in the month ahead. So that’s the time I think to be looking at those.”
Mark Skousen takes the stage early on day two of #NOIC2018 – says “you have to be a nonconformist in #investing.”
— Resource Investing (@INN_Resource) November 2, 2018
Dennis Gartman’s final piece of advice for investors at #NOIC2018 – “don’t average down.” He says this is what separates the pros from the amateurs.
— Resource Investing (@INN_Resource) November 2, 2018
Stay tuned for an interview with Day.
Check back for audio interviews with many of the above speakers and more. We will be posting them throughout this week and next, along with additional coverage of the conference.
Don’t forget to follow us @INN_Resource for real-time updates!
Securities Disclosure: I, Charlotte McLeod, hold no direct investment interest in any company mentioned in this article.
Editorial Disclosure: The Investing News Network does not guarantee the accuracy or thoroughness of the information reported in the interviews it conducts. The opinions expressed in these interviews do not reflect the opinions of the Investing News Network and do not constitute investment advice. All readers are encouraged to perform their own due diligence.
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